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Installing a Storage Tank

April 13th, 2010

Listed below is some information regarding installation of your LPG storage tank.

Rental of tanks £15 – £22 per quarter.

Installation of tank onto prepared site and pipework to house ~£150 – £200 for an above ground installation, £450 – £500 for below ground installation.

Civil works extra.*

*Note; from personal experience the supply company do not prepare the area for the storage tank, you will either have to hire a contractor or do the work yourself. I had my tank installed underground; I paid £100 for a local farmer to dig out the hole to the required specification supplied by Calor.

Technical suitability

Requires space to site tank with access for vehicle to deliver fresh supplies of fuel. There are some restrictions on the siting of the storage tank. For example, there is a minimum separation distance between the tank and the dwelling (dependant on the volume of the tank) and the driver of the delivery tanker must be able to see the tanker from the storage tank during the filling procedure. There are other restrictions on the siting and installation of tanks (such as proximity to overhead power cables) – the gas supplier will be able to advise.

Building regulations apply to the installation of the boiler, storage tank and associated fuel delivery pipe-work. If and the work is undertaken by a CORGI registered installer then a Building Control Service need not be involved

Fire Walls

The purpose of a fire wall is to protect the LPG bulk tank from thermal radiation from a fire nearby and to ensure that there is an adequate dispersion distance to boundaries where the normal separation distance cannot be achieved.

Constructed from brick, concrete or solid masonry, the fire wall should be imperforate and not less than the height of the vessel.

Fire walls should not be placed on more than two sides of the LPG bulk tank and should be sited between 1m to 1.5m from the nearest point of the tank. In all cases, the natural ventilation should not be significantly impaired.

The construction of a fire wall aims to achieve at least 30 minutes of fire resistance.

Screening Requirements

Brick, stone, non flammable wooden fencing, metal panels – these are all materials that might be considered for screening purposes around surface mounted LPG bulk

tanks.

The proviso is, as always that there is unimpeded ventilation around the tanks, that weeds are kept down, that nothing obstructs the delivery tanker driver’s line of sight, and that nothing encroaches within one metre of the LPG bulk tanks.

Weeds, long grass, deciduous shrubs and trees and any combustible material should be removed from an area similar to the required separation distance.

These are:

Tanks up to 2500 litres = 3 metres

Tanks over 2500 litres = 6 metres

Note: Chemical weed killers (such as Sodium Chlorate) or any other method which might provide a source of ignition should not be used in these areas.

Visual screening should be:

Located at least 1 metre from the vessel

Located on one side only

Either evergreen shrubs or non flammable ranch type fence

It should not interfere with ventilation

Of all screening materials, however, nothing looks more natural than trees and shrubs. They’re not difficult to grow and cost less than bricks and mortar. The main consideration is to plan the selection carefully to allow for location conditions and the ultimate size of the plant. Ideally, the minimum of pruning should be required to ensure the one metre clearance for ventilation and access.

Trenches

When preparing the trench for pipework it should be a minimum of 600mm deep and the width of an ordinary garden spade. You should ensure that the bottom of the trench and the back fill are free of sharp stones / objects as these may damage the pipe. Extra protection may be necessary if the pipe runs below roadways or garden walls etc.

Pipework

The supply pipework should be designed by a specialist to ensure it provides an adequate supply of gas and that it conforms to the relevant standards.

The service pipework between the LPG bulk tank and the building should be installed in a trench, ensuring the route for the pipe is as short and direct as possible. The pipework should not be installed above ground, inside any building, or under the footings of a building.

The contractor installing the LPG bulk tank will normally lay the underground gas pipe that runs from the tank to your house. *(Please note in my case I had to do this myself and get it approved by the supply company, be warned it can prove very difficult and expensive to get this work carried out by a contractor). The pipe will be laid along a prepared trench to the outside wall of your home where it will enter at about 600mm above ground level with a quick acting emergency control valve.

Your central heating contractor will connect the pipe from this valve to the boiler and any other appliances.

Dimensions For The Concrete Base

Tank size: Length x width x depth (m)

1 x 380 litre = 1.7 x 0.65 x 0.15

2 x 380 litre = 1.7 x 2.3 x 0.15

1 x 1200 litre = 2.0 x 1.0 x .015

2 x 1200 litre = 2.0 x 3.0 x 0.15

1 x 2000 litre = 3.1 x 1.0 x 0.15

2 x 2000 litre = 3.1 x 3.0 x 0.15

1 x 3400 litre = 3.8 x 1.2 x .015

2 x 3400 litre 3.8 x 3.4 x 0.15

Construction Requirements

Peg out the base dimension in accordance with the diagram below ensuring that the vessel separation distances have been achieved.

Excavate the ground and provide a consolidated hardcore base.

Use a simple 4:2:1 sand: gravel: cement mix.

Ensure that the base top surface is at ground level.

Ensure the surface is level in both plains.

Allow at least 7 days for the base to cure.

Concrete Base

To support the weight of the LPG bulk tank including the gas contents, a load bearing base is required.

It is important to ensure that the base is adequately sized for the appropriate tank and suitably constructed to ensure stability and correct functioning of the tank valves and fittings.

Where an LPG bulk tank is to be delivered using a trolley, it is essential that the base surface is at ground level.

Be warned; Some LPG supplier companies claim that a suitable LPG tank will cost £150 and £60 rental in the fist 12 months. But this ignores the fact that it will also cost £60 to rent in the second 12 months, in the third twelve months, in the fourth 12 months… in fact for the lifetime of the installation. Over the typical 20 year lifespan of a heating installation, the storage tank will actually cost approximately £650.00

In the vast majority of cases the tank will be owned by the company that supplies the gas, but if you are unsure then you should check this with your own supplier. In general, the supplier will look after the tank and its fittings (their integrity and maintenance) but again check this with your supplier if you are unsure, as legally it needs to be maintained in a safe condition

Useful Information

April Price Comparison

April 8th, 2010

Checking on various Forums its seems apparent that prices vary according to what you can negotiate. If you do not negotiate you will get stung, there is no question about this.

The following is based on the lowest prices I have found for this month 04/2010.

Calor - 38.5 ppl + VAT

Flo Gas – 56 ppl + VAT

BP – 34 ppl + VAT

Countrywide – 34 ppl + VAT

ExtraFuels – 41.06 ppl + VAT

Shell – 35 ppl + VAT

Remember there is also tank charges/rental.

Ok -so who can beat the prices of BP and Countrywide?

Interestingly I have received a letter from Calor who have offered me a £100 credit to sign up for another 2 years.

Click on Heating Fuels investigation by Consumer Focus, its worth reading and  supplying  your LPG buying experiences  to help in getting a fairer deal for all LPG heating Consumers.

Thinking of changing LPG Supplier then read this:

http://www.lpg-solutions.co.uk/existingdomestic.html

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LPG Comparison Site for Heating the Home

April 7th, 2010

Searching through the internet there seems to be no Comparison for LPG home heating.  Like many LPG consumers I feel that I am stuck with my one provider (Calor) and have great difficulty in seeking other distributors and more importantly what prices they charge.

Are you unhappy with your current LPG home heating supplier?

Are you fed up with receiving letters from your supplier telling you the price of LPG is going up yet again?

Are you charged a ridiculous amount of money for renting a tank that’s sitting in your garden?

Tell us so we can let others know.

Or are you pleased with your current supplier?

Have you got a great deal?

How much do you pay per litre, is it the cheapest?

How much rent to you pay for that tank resting at the bottom of your garden or is it for free?

So, do you feel if you had the correct information you could get a better deal?

  • This site is dedicated to searching out the cheapest prices and the best deals for the LPG home consumer.
  • Each month we will strive to provide information of the best LPG prices and deals available for home heating.

Watch this space for further details.

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